Ciao a tutti.. domanda da un Kilo di euro :D
uso reason in modalità slave tramite rewire su Logic Express.
Reason è in modalità playback, quindi quando parte Logic in play, ascolto i vari pattern già creati con Logic e suono senza latenza (es) un synt di Reason.
Perfetto, peccato che qui viene il problema.
Come faccio anche a "scrivere" direttamante su Logic quello che sto suonando su Reason?
vorrei evitare di scrivere prima il pattern su reason, esportarlo, metterlo su Logic, sincronizzarlo... e patapim e patapam..
sto impazzaendo..[xx(]
muchas gratias..
Respectfully yours
EU_REX
MAC 2GHz dual * 3GB RAM * 2x300GB HD RAID * FOCUSRITE SAFFIRE * Logic Express 7.2
aiuto.. please.. annego! [xx(]
Citazione:Messaggio inserito da EUREX
Ciao a tutti.. domanda da un Kilo di euro :D
uso reason in modalità slave tramite rewire su Logic Express.
Reason è in modalità playback, quindi quando parte Logic in play, ascolto i vari pattern già creati con Logic e suono senza latenza (es) un synt di Reason.
Perfetto, peccato che qui viene il problema.
Come faccio anche a "scrivere" direttamante su Logic quello che sto suonando su Reason?
vorrei evitare di scrivere prima il pattern su reason, esportarlo, metterlo su Logic, sincronizzarlo... e patapim e patapam..
sto impazzaendo..[xx(]
muchas gratias..
Respectfully yours
EU_REX
MAC 2GHz dual * 3GB RAM * 2x300GB HD RAID * FOCUSRITE SAFFIRE * Logic Express 7.2
EU_REX
MAC 2GHz dual * 3GB RAM * 2x300GB HD RAID * FOCUSRITE SAFFIRE * Logic Express 7.2
Ho fatto ricerche sul web.. e a quanto pare si può fare solo l'export da reason e poi inserirlo in una traccia audio di logic.
Se doveste avere bisogno in futuro, andate sul sito della propellerheads.
Di seguito intanto incollo quello che ho trovato utile su Rewire.
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This page contains a general description of how to set up and use ReWire, using Propellerhead Software's Reason as synth application and a generic audio sequencer program as mixer application.
For details on how to use Reason with ReWire in a specific mixer application, see the ReWire Help pages. There you will find detailed step-by-step descriptions of how to set up and use Reason with ReWire in a number of audio sequencers from different manufacturers.
If you need details on how to use ReWire with another synth application, please consult its documentation.
Launching and setting up
When you start a ReWire session, it's important that you do things in the correct order:
1. Launch the audio sequencer (mixer application) and make sure your system is properly set up and connected (so that you can hear the audio output from the mixer application).
2. Activate at least one ReWire channel in the mixer application.
Where and how to do this depends on the mixer application. Typically you will find a dialog or menu listing all available ReWire channels, allowing you to activate any combination. The number of available ReWire channels depend on the applications and the supported ReWire version (ReWire 2 supports up to 256 channels while ReWire 1 supports up to 64). In the case of Reason, there are 64 ReWire channels available - that means you can get up to 64 separate audio channels from Reason.
Which ReWire channels to activate depends on what you want to do and how you have set things up in Reason.
For now, let's activate the first two channels. These correspond to the main stereo out in Reason and usually appears as "Reason Mix L/R" in the mixer application.
3. Now launch Reason - the synth application.
When you launch Reason with a mixer application running and ReWire activated, the following happens:
Reason will sense that ReWire is activated. Instead of using the standard audio settings you have made in Reason, it will route all audio via ReWire to the mixer application.
Depending on the operating system and your setup, you may get a warning saying that the MIDI inputs couldn't be opened. This has nothing to do with ReWire in itself, it's just that the mixer application may have "grabbed" the MIDI interface already. Since you can route MIDI to Reason via ReWire, this is not a problem.
4. Open the mixer window in the mixer application.
There should be a mixer channel strip for the "Reason Mix L/R" ReWire channel.
5. Try starting playback in the mixer application.
Reason's playback should automatically start as well. If it doesn't - check that you haven't turned off the "Focus: Play" button in Reason's transport panel. As long as this button is lit, the two programs should play back, stop, rewind and locate in perfect sync. You can use the transport panel in either program and both programs will respond. The one exception to this is of course when you press the Record button - only the application that is in focus will actually go into record mode but the other will follow it and play the backing tracks.
6. Play back some sound in Reason.
An easy way to do this at this point is to play a drum pattern from a Redrum device (playing devices via MIDI is described below). You should see the level meters move for the ReWire channel in the other application's mixer, and you should hear the sound from the outputs selected in the mixer application.
Now you have set up a basic ReWire connection! This setup allows you e.g. to have Reason play a background track and record vocals or other audio tracks in the audio sequencer.
When you have finished working you must remember to save in both programs! Also, you must quit Reason before quitting the mixer application.
Using multiple ReWire channels
Above we set things up so that the complete Reason mix was sent via ReWire to the mixer application. But what if you want to make individual mixer settings for a separate device - e.g. add a VST effect to a Subtractor sound and add some compression to an individual Redrum sound? Proceed as follows:
1. In the mixer application, bring up the dialog or menu where you activate ReWire channels again.
2. Activate one or several additional channels - let's say you activate channels 3 and 4.
3. In Reason, flip the rack around by pressing [Tab].
4. Locate the Subtractor device and disconnect it from the Reason mixer. Instead, connect it to input nr 3 on the Hardware Interface at the top of the rack.
5. Locate the Redrum device and the drum sound channel to which you want to add some processing. Connect the individual output of that drum sound channel to input nr 4 on the Hardware Interface.
6. Go back to the mixer application, open the mixer window and start playback.
Now the sound of the Subtractor device and the individual drum sound appear on separate ReWire channels in the mixer. You can make individual mixer settings for these, add effects or EQ and route them as desired!
This was just an example - you can use up to 64 different ReWire channels if you like. As you can see, each input jack in the Reason hardware interface corresponds to a separate ReWire channel. Simply activate the number of ReWire channels you need in the mixer application and route individual Reason devices to the corresponding inputs on the hardware interface.
You can work as in the example above (use Reason's mixer to mix most of the devices to the "Reason Mix L/R" ReWire channel and route a few devices directly to the hardware interface) or you could route all devices to separate ReWire channels (in which case you don't need to use Reason's mixer at all - all mixing is done in the mixer application).
Routing MIDI via ReWire
If your mixer application supports ReWire 2, you can send MIDI from the mixer application to Reason via ReWire. This way you can control everything from the mixer application - in effect, Reason becomes a rack of devices that you play from the mixer application! Or, if you like, you can have Reason's sequencer play some of the devices and the sequencer in the mixer application play some other devices - it's up to you.
1. Create a MIDI track in the mixer application.
2. Open the menu or dialog where you select a MIDI output for the track.
You will find that all current devices in the Reason rack are listed as MIDI outputs.
3. Select a Reason device.
The MIDI track is now routed to the selected device in Reason. If you enter some MIDI notes on the track and play it back, you will hear them being played by the Reason device. This works just as if each Reason device was a stand-alone hardware MIDI sound module.
The tracks' MIDI channel settings don't matter when you are using Reason with ReWire this way. Each Reason device accepts MIDI data on any channel.
You can also play Reason devices "live" this way: just direct MIDI input to the MIDI track in the mixer application and play your MIDI instrument. The MIDI data will be passed on to the selected Reason device (provided that "MIDI thru" or similar is activated in the mixer application, which is usually the case - check the documentation if in doubt).
In some situations you may need to open the Preferences in Reason and select "No MIDI Input" on the Port pop-up menus on the MIDI pages. Depending on your operating system and setup, this may be necessary to avoid having MIDI notes being sent to Reason twice - once via ReWire and once directly from the MIDI interface.
Working with automation
What about routing MIDI the other way around, from Reason to the mixer application? Well, you cannot route the Reason sequencers to the mixer application - Reason doesn't support MIDI out as such. However, there is one occasion when you send data from Reason to the other sequencer program: When you record automation for the Reason devices. Proceed as follows:
1. Create a MIDI track in the mixer application and make it ready for recording.
2. Open the menu or dialog where you select a MIDI input for the track.
You should find the current Reason devices listed among the MIDI inputs as well.
3. Select the device you want to automate.
4. Now you have set things up so that the MIDI track in the mixer application receives data from the Reason device.
5. Start recording in the mixer application and switch to Reason.
6. Move the appropriate parameters on the device panel in Reason.
7. When you're done, stop recording and check the MIDI track in the mixer application - your parameter changes have now been recorded as MIDI controller data.
8. Route the MIDI track to the device and play back the track - the parameters will change according to the recorded automation.
Why wait until the last step with routing the MIDI track's output to the device? Well, if you select the device as output for the MIDI track from the beginning, everything you send to the track will be passed on to the device. This means that when you move a parameter on the device panel, the data will be sent to the mixer application and then back again to the device - the device will receive the parameter changes "twice". Although this will work as well, it can result in slightly "jumpy" controls when you're recording automation.
A few things to note about working with automation in ReWire mode:
Reason parameters that you have automated in the mixer application will not be shown with colored "frames" on the device panels in Reason.
You can control and automate parameters using a MIDI remote control device - just select a MIDI track in the mixer application and make sure it receives MIDI from the remote device. All settings you make will be sent on from the MIDI track to its selected Reason device.
Of course, you can also enter MIDI controller data directly in the mixer application. Check the MIDI Implementation charts included with Reason for details on which MIDI controller corresponds to which device parameter.
Converting ReWire channels to audio files
Normally you don't have to record the output from Reason as regular audio files - when you're using ReWire you can just have Reason play along with any audio recordings you have made in the mixer application. But there are some occasions when you want to turn the output from Reason into actual audio files on your hard disk:
If you have been working with a "ReWire project" but want to continue working in the mixer application alone (e.g. moving it to another computer, that doesn't have Reason installed).
In this case you want to convert each ReWire channel into a separate audio file and place these on regular audio tracks in the mixer application. Most mixer applications allow you to export audio to a file, in the following way:
1. If that is required in the mixer application, set locators (or similar) around the section you want to export.
2. Solo the first ReWire channel. You may want to play back and check that you only hear the ReWire channel you want to export.
3. Use the mixer application's "export", "bounce" or "render" function to turn the audio output to an audio file and import this to a separate audio track.
4. Mute the MIDI track playing the corresponding Reason device (or mute the corresponding sequencer track in Reason, if you are using that).
5. Continue in the same way with the rest of the ReWire channels.
Finally you will have replaced all ReWire channels with audio tracks. At this point you can quit Reason, deactivate all ReWire channels and continue working in the mixer application alone.
If you want to make a master audio file, for CD-burning or publishing.
In this case you want the whole mix (ReWire channels, audio tracks and anything else that sounds) to be included in the audio file. Basically, you want a file that plays back like the whole "ReWire project" you have been working on. This time you don't need to make any special settings for the ReWire channels - you just use the mixer application's "export", "bounce" or "render" function to turn the final audio output into an audio file - the ReWire channels should be included in the final result.
Citazione:Messaggio inserito da EUREX
Ciao a tutti.. domanda da un Kilo di euro :D
uso reason in modalità slave tramite rewire su Logic Express.
Reason è in modalità playback, quindi quando parte Logic in play, ascolto i vari pattern già creati con Logic e suono senza latenza (es) un synt di Reason.
Perfetto, peccato che qui viene il problema.
Come faccio anche a "scrivere" direttamante su Logic quello che sto suonando su Reason?
vorrei evitare di scrivere prima il pattern su reason, esportarlo, metterlo su Logic, sincronizzarlo... e patapim e patapam..
sto impazzaendo..[xx(]
muchas gratias..
Respectfully yours
EU_REX
MAC 2GHz dual * 3GB RAM * 2x300GB HD RAID * FOCUSRITE SAFFIRE * Logic Express 7.2
EU_REX
MAC 2GHz dual * 3GB RAM * 2x300GB HD RAID * FOCUSRITE SAFFIRE * Logic Express 7.2
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